Comments on: Phone Post: Voice over IP over voice to voice to voice over IP over IP. https://www.lafferty.ca/2003/11/16/phone-post-voice-over-ip-over-voice-to-voice-to-voice-over-ip-over-ip/ Rich Lafferty's OLD blog Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:22:50 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.9.2 By: srmanek https://www.lafferty.ca/2003/11/16/phone-post-voice-over-ip-over-voice-to-voice-to-voice-over-ip-over-ip/comment-page-1/#comment-778 Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:22:50 +0000 #comment-778 With HP it’s almost impossible to make a long distance toll call. They’ve got their phone network and their data network, not sure if they do VoIP. If you make a LD call, their phone switches will route your call over their network, to the nearest office and make the outbound call from there.

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By: dargit https://www.lafferty.ca/2003/11/16/phone-post-voice-over-ip-over-voice-to-voice-to-voice-over-ip-over-ip/comment-page-1/#comment-777 Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:24:42 +0000 #comment-777 geek.

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By: Rich https://www.lafferty.ca/2003/11/16/phone-post-voice-over-ip-over-voice-to-voice-to-voice-over-ip-over-ip/comment-page-1/#comment-776 Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:59:46 +0000 #comment-776 No, I wrote it out first, and read it into the phone, because I’ve got enough phone-phobia that I can never remember what to say when there’s a handset by my ear. Then I recorded it, because I wanted to hear how the audio stood up with data at both ends and audio in the middle, and because the parallel between packet/voice/packet voice and packet/voice/packet DSL was amusing. Consider it a VoIP-geek equivalent of trying to figure out what to do with an embedded board that you ended up with, even though you don’t really have any need for embedded systems at home. The transcript was just a cut and paste with a couple of fixes where I know I went off script. Mostly I made sure there was a transcription on there so that no-one else would leave a garbage one, not that we know anyone that would do that. :-)

Besides, I didn’t say that it saved time, or that it’s easier to use. It really doesn’t for the guy with a phone on his desk; the time and cost savings with corporate VoIP pretty much come down to only having to maintain a data network instead of parallel voice and data wiring throughout your offices, and being able to tie branch offices (including teleworkers) together without having to rent circuits. These are huge advantages from the perspective of an overworked corpcomm/IT department.

To the typical office worker, it’s just a phone that works like every other phone they’ve ever used, and that’s a feature.

On the LiveJournal side of things, VoIP means that they’re able to offer a lot of local numbers for the phone-posting service, which I admit to not entirely understanding but was apparently enough for a competitor to build a business on. Without VoIP you’d have a Seattle number, and that’s about it. While the current set of 400-odd numbers is still geographically limited (east coast US), they’ve only got one VoIP termination service involved so far, and as more are brought on that’ll get fixed.

So at the corporate side, it’s about saving time and money by being easier to deploy and manage; on the LiveJournal side, it’s about providing a service to areas in which it would otherwise be prohibitively expensive to do so for pennies per minute. But it’s just VoIP in production, and I think it’s neat to see the technologies that pay for my food and shelter being used in the real world for a bunch of neat new things, especially when they’re being used transparently. The advantages of VoIP are pretty boring from a consumer point of view, but that’s OK, because bells and whistles aren’t why it’s neat.

Of course, I won’t be offended if you skip over my stuff about VoIP if it doesn’t interest you.

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By: fimmtiu https://www.lafferty.ca/2003/11/16/phone-post-voice-over-ip-over-voice-to-voice-to-voice-over-ip-over-ip/comment-page-1/#comment-775 Mon, 17 Nov 2003 00:50:16 +0000 #comment-775 Let me get this straight: You picked up your phone, dialed long-distance, spoke for a minute and six seconds, and then put your phone back down, downloaded an audio file of your phone call, and manually transcribed everything you’d just said into your journal?

Whenever I hear someone describing how some new technology saves time or is easier to use, I quietly laugh and shake my head.

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By: brianenigma https://www.lafferty.ca/2003/11/16/phone-post-voice-over-ip-over-voice-to-voice-to-voice-over-ip-over-ip/comment-page-1/#comment-774 Mon, 17 Nov 2003 00:47:35 +0000 #comment-774 Too cool.

You’re my hero.

I need to start playing with VoIP pretty soon.

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By: Rich https://www.lafferty.ca/2003/11/16/phone-post-voice-over-ip-over-voice-to-voice-to-voice-over-ip-over-ip/comment-page-1/#comment-773 Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:44:00 +0000 #comment-773 Here is the previous comment that I referred to there.

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